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March
15, 2004
Planning Board Minutes
Oswego Town Hall |
Chair:
Judy Sabin-Watson
Town Board Members: Francis Dellamano, Kenneth
Kern,
Lee Phillips, Barry Pritchard, John Pritchard, Robert Smith
Attorney To The Board: Stephen Greene, Jr. |
The
Planning Board Meeting for March 15, 2004 was called to order
by Judy Sabin Watson at approximately 7:10 PM.
Those in attendance were:
Chair
Member
Member
Member
Member
Attorney
Secretary |
Judy
Sabin-Watson
Francis Dellamano
Kenneth Kern
Lee Phillips
John Pritchard
Stephen Greene, Jr
Marjorie Best |
Those absent
were:
Member
Alternate Member |
Barry
Pritchard
Robert Smith |
Old
Business:
Application #2003-01 - VIP Structures
Jeff Wallace of Empire Fresh Cuts, LLC, as well as neighbors
Frank and Michaelene Slattery attended the meeting, with an
Amended Site Plan for the fence and shrubbery between their
properties. Jeff Wallace read the Agreement between Empire Fresh
Cuts and Frank Slattery. Empire Fresh Cuts agrees to have a
4 foot high, all black vinyl coated chain link fence, professionally
installed. It will start 31 feet from the east side white line
of Route 104 and extend 280 feet eastward along the top edge
area of the block wall. The fence will be set approximately
2 feet south of the wall. They agreed to have 28 white spruce
pine trees professionally installed. The trees will be approximately
5 feet tall, spaced 10 feet apart along the new fence line.
Tree line will start 31 feet from the eastside white line of
Route 104, heading eastward on the Slattery property. The new
tree row will be approximately 10 feet south of the block wall.
Empire Fresh Cuts will replace topsoil in Slatteryís
yard where the property was excavated into, due to building
the block wall. The area will also be graded and re-seeded for
a new lawn area. The work will be completed within a timely
manner as soon as weather permits in the Spring of 2004. This
Agreement will waive the previous contract made between the
parties on July 17th, 2003, regarding a solid set wood fence
200 feet long.
There was some discussion of the trees, as to whether they would
be wrapped in burlap. Fran Dellamano asked what would happen
if a tree dies. Frank Slattery indicated he had called a couple
of landscape companies, and they will give a one year warranty
on the trees.
John Pritchard expressed concern that if we get a lot of snow,
like we did this year, with a 4 foot fence, snow might get higher
than the fence, and snowmobiles looking for a trail might drive
right over the top of it, and into the drop off. He asked who
would be responsible if someone goes over it, and where is the
liability.
Steve Greene stated if someone sues, that potential liability
could go to the Frank Slattery, Empire Fresh Cuts, as well as
the Town of Oswego for approving the Site Plan. Fran Dellamano
made a suggestion to erect high poles as markers, so snowmobiles
would know a fence is there.
John Pritchard stated that according to last months minutes,
the fence would be graduated from 8 feet, then 6 feet, and 4
feet near the road. Frank Slattery said it would be a chain
link fence that you can see through, so it would not block anything.
Frank said he would rather have a 5 foot fence rather than 4
feet, and Jeff Wallace agreed.
Fran Dellamano made a motion that we accept the proposal which
was put before the Board, with the exception of a 5 foot fence
rather than 4 foot. John Pritchard seconded the motion. All
ayes, Motion carried.
Jeff Wallace explained the process of the plant as far as waste
water is concerned. The whole waste water process has been changed.
The waste water is being captured in tanks inside the building
and being hauled away. It is a municipal waste water that rolls
off the onions. The water is being treated with chlorine. They
are going to do a speedy permit application development process,
as they have nothing to actually test. The bottom line is they
have to have waste water to test. The onion juice that is squished
out of the onions through the dicing process will be captured
inside the building, and bottled and sold to soup companies
for flavor. That is not the waste water. The municipal waste
water is the water that falls off the peeled onions. That is
hauled off in a truck to the City of Oswego. We have a permit
from the DEC. It is really harmless waste water.
Kenneth Kern asked if there was a reason why they chose the
City of Oswego. Jeff Wallace said he had called the Town of
Minetto to get a price, and never did get a return call. He
had heard it was quite expensive, and the City of Oswego will
do it for 8.5 cents.
Frank Slattery asked if there would be a smell and a lot of
noise during the processing, to which Jeff Wallace said there
would be no smell and minimal noise.
Fran Dellamano went back to the issue of the fence between Empire
Fresh Cuts and the Slattery property. Jeff said they would amend
the plan to have a 5 foot fence rather than 4 foot. The agreement
will be signed by Sam and Jim Zappala, as well as Jeff Wallace
and Frank Slattery, and submit it to the Board.
Comprehensive Plan:
At approximately 7:40, Fran Dellamano opened discussion regarding
the Comprehensive Plan. He said he went to the Town Board and
presented the map plan. There were about 10 people in attendance.
It was very well received. No one seemed to see anything negative.
Fran said we can not do too much with it at this meeting, as
the large map was supposed to be placed on the table here, and
it was not. He said we will have to work with the small map
he had with him. Fran stated we need to come up with definitions.
He made a suggestion to the Town Board, that perhaps Steve Greene
could do it, and work with us on it. He also suggested that
we have an open meeting to discuss it with the people. The Town
Board and Planning Board could get together at the meeting and
make any changes. We should also think about Zoning and get
that approved. He contacted the Chairman of the Planning Board
in Mexico, and they had hired a Professor from Pottsdam to come
down. He thinks with his experience with the Comprehensive Plan,
that we should hire someone other than the County Planning Board
to lead us through it. We put in some white spaces which means
it is Open, where anyone can put in anything they want. We do
not want mobile homes, so we should put a sentence ìthat
there should be no mobile homes North of 104 from the city line
to the California Roadî or indicate as Open #1 or Open
#2.
The subject came up as to what is classified as a mobile home,
a double wide or a modular home. John Pritchard explained that
there are mobile homes, trailers and modular homes that have
steel structures, whether they are delivered in one section
or three sections. Fran Dellamano said his theory is that we
need to zone against mobile homes. We need to define a mobile
home. The plan for the Mexico Ordinance has a specific definition
for a mobile home. (The definition was read verbatim from the
Mexico Ordinance).
New Business:
Approval of the February 16, 2004 Minutes:
At approximately 8:10 PM, Kenneth Kern made a motion that the
February 16,2004 Minutes be approved. Lee Phillips seconded
the motion. All ayes. Motion carried.
Applicants:
No applicants
Public Comment:
No Public Comment.
Open Board Discussion:
Judy Watson stated she received a phone call about two weeks
ago from Gary Royce. On July 14, 2003, the Site Plan presented
to the Planning Board did not meet subdivision regulations,
so the application did not need to come before the Planning
Board. Fran Dellamano asked her what his question was. Judy
stated when they came to get a building permit, the Building
Inspector told them they needed a Subdivision Plan. She tried
to call him back several times, but could not reach him. She
thought maybe he might show at this meeting. Judy said there
were two persons involved at the time, Gary Royce and Timothy
Relyea of Hyland Partners, Inc.
Ken Kern asked how many houses they planned to build; that perhaps
they plan to include more lots for homes. Judy Watson said she
would keep trying to get in touch with them. She just wanted
the Board to be aware that he had called regarding a Building
Permit.
At approximately 8:20 PM, John Pritchard brought up the issue
of Empire Fresh Cuts blacktopping the road. He said he and his
neighbors get sand and dirt in their pools, and Frank Slattery
just put new siding on his house. They are going to have to
put down some sort of oil and stone. The trucks come up through,
then stop, then start up and the dirt flies. When weather permits,
it will have to be done to keep the dirt and sand from going
all over.
Adjournment:
At approximately 8:25 PM, Ken Kern made a motion to adjourn
the meeting. It was seconded by John Pritchard. All ayes. Motion
carried.
Respectfully submitted,Marjorie Best,
Secretary to Planning Board |
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