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June
27, 2005
Planning Board Minutes
Oswego Town Hall |
Chair:
Judy Sabin-Watson
Town Board Members: Francis Dellamano, Kenneth
Kern,
Lee Phillips, Barry Pritchard, John Pritchard, Jeffrey Boyer
Attorney To The Board: Stephen Greene, Jr. |
Call
to Order:
Judy Watson, Chairman, called the Planning Board Meeting to
order at approximately 7:00 PM.
Attendance:
Those
in attendance were:
Chair
Member
Member
Member
Member
Member
Attorney
Secretary |
Judy
Sabin-Watson
Francis Dellamano
Lee Phillips
Barry Pritchard
John Pritchard
Jeffrey Boyer
Stephen Greene, Jr.
Marjorie Best |
Absent was:
Old
Business:
Approval of May 16th, and Continuation on May 25, 2005 Minutes:
Lee Phillips made a Motion that we approve the Minutes of May
16, 2005, and continuation on May 25, 2005. Barry Pritchard
seconded the Motion. All Ayes. Motion carried.
Application #2005-02 - Ronald L. Hawe - Campground:
Judy Watson stated we have received a letter from the Oswego
County Department of Planning, stating their agency has determined
that no significant county impact is involved, therefore, this
should be decided as a local issue. The letter also stated a
highway work permit will be needed from the New York State Department
of Transportation to access from NYS State 104, and to County
Route 20,if applicable. It also stated that final approval be
contingent upon the applicant receiving all appropriate Oswego
County Health Department approvals and permits. Barry Pritchard
made a Motion that we approve the application as submitted.
John Pritchard seconded the motion. All ayes. Motion carried.
Judy brought up the issue of the Sign Permit. Fran Dellamano
asked what the measurement is in regard to the gate. Ron Hawe
stated 15 or 20 feet. Judy said on the application it stated
50 feet from the right of way. Ron was also asked about the
size of the sign, and he said it is the same size as the Minetto
Fire Department's sign. He said there will be another sign on
the gate "Yesterdays". Judy asked for a Motion for
approval of the sign. Fran Dellamano made a Motion that the
sign be approved according to the recommendations as submitted.
John Pritchard seconded the Motion. All ayes. Motion carried.
Ron Hawe re-appeared later at the meeting, and wanted the distance
changed for the sign. It was originally 50 feet from the road,
but wants to change it to 25 feet, as from one direction, the
sign could not be seen from the road. Barry Pritchard said we
had gone through this with the Church - a minimum of 25 feet
from the edge of the pavement. After some discussion, Fran Dellamano
made a Motion that we amend the Sign Permit Application, that
instead of a distance of 50 feet from the road, that it be 25
feet from the road. Jeff Boyer seconded the Motion. All ayes.
Motion carried.
Judy said the only other thing we need to do with Ron's application
is the Negative Declaration SEQR. Steve said he would check
with Brian Frazier, and find out what needs to be done.
OCWA Facility - Regan's Silver Lake:
Anthony J. Geiss, Deputy Executive Director of OCWA appeared
as requested by the Board. Neighbors opposing the facility attended,
namely, Cindy and Kevin Mazur, and Karen and Mike Atutis. Judy
explained to Mr. Geiss that we have some residents who are upset
about the OCWA facility being at their doorstep. She asked if
OCWA could come to some sort of agreement so the neighbors would
be a little happier. Mr. Geiss said he would do whatever necessary
to alleviate the tension. Judy asked the residents to speak
themselves as to their concerns. Kevin Mazur asked if anyone
looked up the legality as to being exempt. Steve Greene said
he had contacted Kevin Caraccioli, who was supposed to do some
research on it, and get back to him, but as yet, he has not
heard from Kevin. Mr. Geiss said the Zoning Districts are R-4
and Open, which commercial enterprises could be put in. He said
he had received correspondence from Mr. & Mrs. Ed Croucher
about the concerns. Karen Atutis explained Mr. & Mrs. Croucher
could not attend tonight, as they were on a planned vacation.
The Atutis' and Mazur's were ready to address the issues of
all the neighbors. Cindy Mazur explained they were upset as
they built beautiful homes in the area, and then have to look
at a barn. There are truck entrances in and out.
She asked if there was some way they could come up with a natural
buffer, so it would cut down on the noise and dirt. Mr. Geiss
said there are plans to put up a buffer, especially the exit
street on the back, perhaps some cedars or evergreens. He had
agreed when he talked to the Crouchers back in April to plant
some trees along the side and in the back. Before they can do
this, they must get the water line in. He said he has already
gone over the plans with the architect. They thought evergreens
would be better than regular trees, as they would have to wait
for regular trees to leaf out. He also explained they plan to
keep everything inside the building, such as trucks and bulldozers.
He said they plan on putting stone down to cut down on the dust.
They are also planning on changing the overhead doors. They
are installing overhead doors in the back, so they can drive
vehicles in the back and out the front, so they will not be
backing up, and ringing the buzzers and beeping, which is standard
on all their vehicles. He said they will not be adding onto
the building, just improvements inside, as well as the doors
and windows. They are having a survey done with topographic
information on it. A septic system will also be put in. Kevin
Mazur said he lives right next door. He questioned the area
500 feet from the center of the road, which is where the residential
zone goes. He asked Mr. Geiss how deep their property is. Mr.
Geiss said they are about 325 feet for the edge of the road.
The building is about 75 feet by 150 feet. He stated their company
is a municipality. Karen Atutis stated it is not a municipality,
it is a public utility. Judy Watson said that is why we have
to wait for Kevin to do his research.
Cindy Mazur asked when the trucks exit, what road will they
exit from, and Mr. Geiss said the front road. She asked what
he considered the front road, and he stated County Route 7.
The only time Donovan Drive would be used is for emergency purposes,
such as a fire. He was asked how many employees would be there,
and he said two, namely Scott Sharkey and Pat Guerin. He was
also asked about employees being there at night, and he said
he did not expect employees to be there at night. They now have
a pickup, trailer and a dump truck which will be the only vehicles
parked there. They do not have a crew located there at this
time. In addition to storing trucks inside, they have parts
that will be stored.
Mr. Geiss was asked about lighting. He said he would have lights
on the building that would point downward, not lighting up the
whole neighborhood. The members, as well as Mr. Geiss and the
neighbors looked at the map of the property, and it was shown
where each of the neighbors live as to where the OCWA site is.
Lee Phillips asked if there would be any towers or anything
of that nature there, and Mr. Geiss stated there will not. He
said the only thing might be a radio antenna, but that would
be it, as they communicate with other facilities by radio. He
said they would have a security system, as they have had problems
at other facilities stealing water or hydrants.
There was discussion of a fence, possibly an 8 feet chain link.
He said that is not in the plans as of now. Cindy Mazur stated
she did not want a fence, that evergreens as a buffer would
be fine. Mr. Geiss said they also store topsoil and crushed
stone inside the building.
The building is plenty big enough to store everything they need
inside. If in the future they put up a fence, the vegetation
would be planted so the fence would not show.
Mr. Geiss again stated that OCWA will work with the residents
to bring satisfaction. They will also store copper in the building
If they have a call up in this area, they may stop to see what
it is all about. They will drive in, look around and drive back
out. That is why they want a good security system there. All
the vehicles have OCWA signs on them. He asked if anyone saw
other than OCWA vehicles there, to call 911. They don't want
problems with contamination or the hydrants. They have meters
hooked up to the hydrants.
Cindy Mazur asked about the zoning for the Silver Lake region.
Fran Dellamano said it is zoned R-4 residential and Open. It
was also in the agricultural district. He said in the future,
people should go to the town and request an R-2 zone, which
is a residential area where no one can put a business in. They
will need a site plan review. Usually a business is allowed
in an R-4 or Open, provided they meet all the criteria, for
example, parking. The Town wants to protect the people in a
residential area.
Mr. Geiss said he wants to get the septic approved, the water
line in, and hopefully get the area landscaped in the Fall.
He said he would get with the architect for planning time wise.
They have to move their equipment from the old site to the new
site. When this building comes down, they are out of here.
Judy Watson said what she would like, that everyone who has
come before us and signed the petition set up a meeting. She
would like the residents to have an opportunity to review the
plans before they actually go ahead and do the work. Mr. Geiss
said he would be glad to review the plans with the residents.
He asked who would be the spokesman for the residents. They
could meet wherever they would like, either their building,
or they could come to the Town Hall. He said he would have no
problem coming in the evening. Judy said when all this is done,
to come back to the Board and let us know how things are progressing.
John Darling - Subdivision:
Judy Watson stated we had written a letter to John Darling regarding
one of the three lots did not have road frontage, and that he
should contact Theresa Cooper if he wished to amend his business
permit. Fran Dellamano stated the letter written did not make
sense. He suggested we write another letter to him stating the
project would be subject to a Subdivision Plan as the lots proposed
do not have road access. He would have to appear before the
Planning Board for approval, after he has the issue of road
ownership resolved.
New Business:
Judy Watson stated she received a copy of a letter to Wayne
Newton, our CEO, from Attorney Jim Nicholson, who represents
John Hayes, who is purchasing the Evergreen Hills Golf Course.
Mr. Hayes' intention is to use the property as a public golf
course/restaurant/tavern. One of the contingencies is that the
buyer receive approval from the Town of Oswego that the property
complies with all zoning laws.
The secretary explained that Mr. Hayes had spoken to Theresa
Cooper, who suggested that he appear at the Zoning Board Meeting.
John Hayes did appear at the meeting, and it was agreed that
since the property has not been vacant for over 48 months, and
is being used as a golf course, that he is in compliance with
the zoning regulations. John Hayes said he would talk with Theresa
and Wayne the following day. Judy said we should write a letter
to Mr. Nicholson stating that it is a Zoning Board issue.
Public Comment:
No one from the public present.
Open Board Discussion:
Judy Watson stated if anyone is interested in attending a Planning
and Zoning School, there is one scheduled for Thursday, July
28, 2005 at Geneseo from 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM.
Barry Pritchard asked if anyone heard anything from John Bush.
No one has heard anything.
Adjournment:
At approximately 8:30 PM, Lee Phillips made a motion to adjourn
the meeting. John Pritchard seconded the motion. All ayes. Motion
carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Marjorie Best,
Secretary to Planning Board |
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