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May
16, 2005
Planning Board Minutes
Oswego Town Hall |
Chair:
Judy Sabin-Watson
Town Board Members: Francis Dellamano, Kenneth
Kern,
Lee Phillips, Barry Pritchard, John Pritchard
Alternate: Robert Smith
Attorney To The Board: Stephen Greene, Jr. |
Call
to Order:
At approximately 7:00 PM, Judy Watson called the Planning Board
Meeting to Order.
Attendance:
Those
in attendance were:
Chair
Member
Member
Member
Member
Attorney
Secretary |
Judy
Sabin-Watson
Francis Dellamano
Lee Phillips
John Pritchard
Barry Pritchard
Stephen Greene, Jr
Marjorie Best |
Absent was:
Old
Business:
Approval of April 18, 2005 Minutes:
Judy Watson said she would like an addition to the Minutes.
We had written to the Attorney for OCWA, Thomas Pasqua. Mr.
Pasqua wrote back stating it was not under our jurisdiction.
That is why we have company tonight.
Fran Dellamano stated if he remembers correctly, as to the letter
written to the Town Board regarding junk cars, he said the important
thing that was not in the minutes, that it would not cost anything
to get junk cars out of there. People pay for the junk cars,
as they can sell the parts. Judy said we would write another
letter to the Town Board Members.
Barry Pritchard made a Motion that we approve the Minutes of
April 18th, with corrections. Lee Phillips seconded the Motion.
All ayes. Motion carried.
Application #2005-02 - Ronald L. Hawe:
Ronald Hawe produced the current survey completed by John Damiano.
It is very well done, showing color coding for Commercial, R-4
and Open Zones. All members took the time to look over the survey.
Ron Hawe indicated what should be approved now, and in the future
he wants to develop his property in the Open Zone.
Judy Watson asked Ron Hawe if he had the Environmental Impact
Statement form requested, and he did submit it. She said we
could not act on the Statement tonight, as there are pages that
must be completed involving the County Planning Board. That
would be Part 2, Pages 11 through 21. Judy asked if the total
acreage for the camp site is 10 acres. Ron Hawe said the total
property is 21 acres, but the campsite to be completed now is
10 acres. The other 11 acres hopefully will be developed in
the future. Fran Dellamano asked if within the red line is 10
acres. Ron said the other 11 acres is beyond the trailer park,
and behind the homes on Maple Avenue. Judy said she proposes
to sit down with Steve Greene and Brian Frazier to complete
Part 2 of the Environmental Impact Statement and sign off on
it.
Fran Dellamano made a Motion that in future projects, that we
get them before the Planning Board members ahead of time, and
then come to the meeting and discuss the problems. Barry Pritchard
seconded the Motion. All ayes. Motion carried.
Barry Pritchard asked if this SEQR is more that we asked for
other sites. Judy stated we had to use the long form because
it is 10 acres. There is also the fact that back fill was brought
in. John Pritchard went over some of the questions on the Environmental
Impact Statement, and he did not see any problems, and hopefully
this campground would be approved.
At approximately 7:20 PM, Judy announced that we have some visitors
regarding the Regan Development. Those who appeared were Cindy
and Kevin Mazur, Elaine Croucher and Karen Atutis. Kevin Mazur
said he understood that in an R-4 District, there was some sort
of business that is supposedly exempt. Judy stated we had written
to OCWA, suggesting that we have a Public Hearing and letting
the neighbors within 1,500 feet know that OCWA was taking over
this piece of property. OCWA wrote back basically saying because
they are a utility, they are exempt, and we have no jurisdiction
of power over what they do. Barry Pritchard stated they are
a state municipality, set up by the State, so they are not covered
by any of our rules.
Elaine Croucher said she lives directly across from the OCWA
facility. She said she and the neighbors have dream homes out
there. Fran Dellamano suggested we write a letter to Jim Regan,
and ask him to come to a meeting. Elaine Croucher asked if there
was anything the Town could do about this.
Kevin Mazur said he wants all of them to be good neighbors.
Perhaps some pine trees could be planted as a border. He said
things kind of escalated. They thought they were in a residential
area, and then realized that a commercial entity was coming
in.
Fran Dellamano said we should write OCWA another letter, for
the purpose of finding out what is legal and not legal; that
we should ask them to come to the next meeting and explain the
site developments, and what they are going to do, and get comments
from the neighbors, as we are using their water.
Steve Greene quoted from the Ordinance, R-4 District, Section
2, Conditional Uses - mobile home park, business or public utility.
Elaine Croucher stated this should be done by Special Permit.
Mr. Mazur stated he stopped at the Town Hall the other day,
and the Code Enforcement Officer was not aware of what happened.
Karen Atutis asked what that driveway thing was about that came
before the Board. Judy explained we allowed them to move a stake
so they could have access to the road. That was not part of
the subdivision.
Judy Watson stated she feels the neighbors in the Regan Development
should come to another meeting also. Fran Dellamano made a motion
that we write a letter to OCWA requesting their presence at
the next meeting, and that we had residents of the Regan Development
come to our meeting with concerns, as well as the Planning Board
being concerned. Barry Pritchard seconded the Motion. All ayes.
Motion carried.
Judy thanked the residents for coming to the meeting.
New Business:
John Darling appeared to discuss his proposal on a development.
He brought a survey done by Russell Getman of three lots he
wants to develop. He pointed out where it crosses West 5th Street
on the right hand side. There are 2 houses, Carroll and Wiltsie.
There is a street called Lee Street, which is a city paper street,
and no houses on Lee Street. He explained that street goes back
to the railroad track in the City of Oswego, and then it stops
right there. You would have to cross the tracks, and then put
a culdesac in, and divide it into 3 lots. What makes it so unique
is the City has to approve Lee Street. He would have to get
approval from NRG to cross the railroad tracks, then do whatever
the Planning Board requires. He said from talking too Tony Leotta,
the City would open up the street. Eagle Beverage is to the
South.
Fran Dellamano said if there is no town property on the road,
and you put a road in, the Town would have to come through the
City to plow the road. He asked if there would have to be an
agreement with the City regarding the road?
John Darling said Plan B would be putting in a private road,
and the homeowners would take care of it. Fran asked about the
legality of the railroad tracks, regarding liability. John said
the railroad tracks are on City property, and the other side
of the tracks is Town property. Lee Phillips asked what the
footage is from the railroad tracks, and John stated 250 feet.
John Darling asked what the requirements were for a Subdivision,
and he was told 4 or more lots. Judy Watson said she does not
believe it is in our jurisdiction as it is less than 4 lots.
She told him he should start with the Town Board. Fran Dellamano
told him he should also go to the Highway Department as to the
road. John also asked if the Town had something set up with
OCWA that if any property developed, that they would have to
use their water. Fran said there are many who do not use OCWA
water.
Open Board Discussion:
Barry Pritchard addressed his concern about a Zoning Board Matter.
Donald Smith lives in an R-2 Zone, and wants a Business Permit
to have a car repair shop in his existing garage. There would
have to be a zone change. He said we went through this with
John Bush. Barry obtained a copy of the Zoning Board Minutes,
and the matter was tabled until May's Zoning Board Meeting,
which is the 19th so the full Board could review the matter.
Barry and Fran are considering attending the meeting.
Judy stated because of a conflict, Steve Greene cannot attend
the Planning Board Meeting on June 20th, so it has been changed
until June 27th.
Judy and Steve Greene discussed meeting times for them to meet
with Brian Frazier about Ronald Hawe's Environmental Impact
Statement, which hopefully will be Friday, May 20th.
It was decided to have a continuation of this meeting on Wednesday,
May 25th, 2005 at 7:00 PM to meet with the Hawe's, and get approval
so they can open up their campground.
At approximately 8:15 PM, Barry Pritchard made a Motion to adjourn
this portion of the meeting, and continue on May 25th (Click
Here For Minutes). John Pritchard seconded
the Motion. All ayes. Motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
Marjorie Best,
Secretary |
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